'Stays between us' Queen had 'special' conversation with church minister days before death

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“I had been there once before, eight years ago back in 2014, and I think going this time, I was more relaxed because I knew what to expect.

“I knew I had been made very welcome and that I would be allowed to relax and just be myself, I think, of course, mostly we have seen Her Majesty The Queen and other members of her family in the formal state.

“So it was an enormous privilege to be with the family when they are enjoying downtime and when they are themselves relaxing, and so it was very natural, very ordinary in that sense.

“And yet for an ordinary person like me, I was pinching myself all the way through it thinking, ‘I am sat next to Her Majesty the Queen and Sophie Countess of Wessex’.”



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